Are Programs anti Revival?

[Quest]

Do Programs hinder the move of God or are they simply in place to faclitate?
I often here 'programs' spoken as a 'dirty word'...

Where there have been revivals a 'schedule' was still in place...I noticed in reading about Azusa street...they had three scheduled services a day...but as the Spirit moved more and more they started to 'flow together' as one...even Brownsville maintained a start time...although the service probably had a non-concrete end time, I am sure they had one at least until God took over..
Times to TEACh the new converts and to further equip the older ones would be necessary...

As I prayed about it over the last few days I sensed the Lord speaking a few things to me on the matter.

He pointed me to Josiah so I read 2 Chronicles 34 and 35..how Josiah did not randomly prepare for the Passover service......and He reminded me of the specifics of the construction and order of worship of the Tabernacle...

Most services contain worship & praise, giving time to His Word, an opportunity to give, and opportunities to serve as God has called...

Then I sense Him say to me that form and programs do not prevent His Spirit..they can serve as a catalyst for Him to flow and move IF the hearts are centered on Him...that as He steps up His power in yielded individuals the forms and programs will shift, change, and in some cases just go away...that they are in place as a MINIMUM oftentimes to fill the void of Him not flowing in His perfect will and power...

He added that some are structured to QUENCH and suppress Him..but typically the hungry are led away to another group...

Then He pointed me to Brownsville...how they were expecting 'church as usual' that Father's day..the songs were picked and practiced...the speaker chosen...the message prepared... but that when He started moving He moved their boundaries....their hearts were doing the stuff to facilitate...not quench..

Thoughts? Experiences?

[FaithfulOne]

To me it's not wrong to prepare, in terms of a worship service or revival gathering...but also to be open to the Holy Spirit to flow with Him as He leads...IOW don't be so locked into your own plans.

Most services contain worship & praise, giving time to His Word, an opportunity to give, and opportunities to serve as God has called...
Then I sense Him say to me that form and programs do not prevent His Spirit..they can serve as a catalyst for Him to flow and move IF the hearts are centered on Him...that as He steps up His power in yielded individuals the forms and programs will shift, change, and in some cases just go away...that they are in place as a MINIMUM oftentimes to fill the void of Him not flowing in His perfect will and power...

I think some are perhaps too focused on "things being done decently and in order" that they think THEIR interpretation "decently and in order" is the Biblical one.

[fuego]

To me it's not wrong to prepare, in terms of a worship service or revival gathering...but also to be open to the Holy Spirit to flow with Him as He leads...IOW don't be so locked into your own plans.

I think some are perhaps too focused on "things being done decently and in order" that they think THEIR interpretation "decently and in order" is the Biblical one.

To paraphrase Bill Johnson I believe it was, "Before things can be done decently and it order, you have to have the things." :)

[Quest]

To paraphrase Bill Johnson I believe it was, "Before things can be done decently and it order, you have to have the things." :)

[Quest]

I think some are perhaps too focused on "things being done decently and in order" that they think THEIR interpretation "decently and in order" is the Biblical one.

I agree...

[Quest]

Do Programs hinder the move of God or are they simply in place to faclitate?

I have visited a church, and one was mentioned in the discussion, where there was NO structure...everone was just told to do whatever the Spirit led them to do and some were dancing, and some were praying and some picked up the flags and some picked up an instrument in one, and the other one looked just like any 'typical' Sunday morning service...

I perceive that the TRUTH is in the middle...that when a group develop a close daily relationship with the Holy Spirit, when they come together one will have a song, one a prophesy...wasn't that the issue in corinthians...that there was a disorder because everyone was doing their own thing and some were actually being led by the Spirit and some just had a mixture of Spirit and emotion that created an unproductive environment even for God?

Scripture reveals God orchistrating structure and order in worship...

Just think about it...a church has services every Sunday morning from 10:30-12..God moves mightily on some days and on others He seems quiet...what should we do on the quiet days...just dismiss and go home?

[AudioArtist]

Just think about it...a church has services every Sunday morning from 10:30-12..God moves mightily on some days and on others He seems quiet...what should we do on the quiet days...just dismiss and go home?

Great question... I have wondered the same.

[fuego]

Just think about it...a church has services every Sunday morning from 10:30-12..God moves mightily on some days and on others He seems quiet...what should we do on the quiet days...just dismiss and go home?

The thing that bothers me is when He does move, the service still gets stopped at 12 due to 'time constraints'.

[FLAME]

If the Lord wasn't consulted in what to do its anti- revival. Its good to prepare but if the Lord wants to move in another direction, let Him have His way to do what He wants, when He wants, how He wants, as long as He wants

[FLAME]

I think some are perhaps too focused on "things being done decently and in order" that they think THEIR interpretation "decently and in order" is the Biblical one.

The problem is they don't let any 'thing be done' at all, no one is doing anything but sitting there like a bump on a log. So they just go thru the motions, their little religious form to fulfill their 'duty'