Son of Hamas Proven Fraud

[shalom2u]

Walid Shoebat has now exposed Son of Hamas as a liar, says one thing in Arabic and another in English.

I am glad that I did not talk too much about him nor was I interested in what he has to say.

WalidShoebat.com: "Son of Hamas" Hates Israel?

[shalom2u]

Forgot to add Walid Shoebat's blog:

The Walid Shoebat Foundation Blog « Former PLO Terrorist Now Speaks Out For USA and Israel

[CatchyUsername]

This is good information but we have to be very careful about judging him to be "a fraud". We must always allow the Lord time to work on the heart of an individual, particularly with regard to something as complicated as being a Palestinian Christian Arab and weighing that against the conflict with Israeli Jews.....

Didn't this young man work with Israelies?

I see this as a maturity issue and something God has to convict him about, but it doesn't prove him to be a fraud.....just my buck fifty.

[shalom2u]

he was launched into ministry too quickly....

[Firebrand]

he was launched into ministry too quickly....

Stuff happens.

[lcash]

he was launched into ministry too quickly....

We could have said that about you as well Sean. Does that give you the right to appoint yourself as judge over this man? Needless to say he has risked more than you for the nation of Israel.

Lcash

[FLAME]

He seemed sincere to me at the first. I wondered how he was doing. A person can start out right but sometimes stubble along the way or off the path for awhile, if they don't have a strong spirit filled person to lead them. I'm sure in the position he was, he has had some hard things to try to overcome.

[shalom2u]

We could have said that about you as well Sean. Does that give you the right to appoint yourself as judge over this man? Needless to say he has risked more than you for the nation of Israel.

Lcash

LCash,

First of all there is a big difference between being released into fulltime ministry after living a life of integrity since being a believer five years old and living out Jesus everywhere I went and in everything I did and even getting persecuted, hit, punched, etc. for the faith and learning to bless my enemies and seeing my enemies come to faith as well....going through Bible School...getting married....and ONLY THEN being released into fulltime ministry. In my fulltime ministry, we run from ministry fame and lots of money and lived off a small budget.

And between someone who is a brand new believer, not tried and tested. Who has not been formally discipled by anyone nor having spiritual fathers.
Suddenly gets famous, and suddenly has lots of money, and has not yet overcome all his "mentality" issues.

Also, what has he gone through and sacrificed for Israel?

He did not do what he did for the nation of Israel, he is an anti-Zionist self-admittedly. He did it because he didnt want to see civilians hurt, no matter what their race. It could have been Israel or Irian Jaya for that matter, he still hates Israel and DID NOT do this for Israel....he has made this clear.
I admire him for that and give him credit, the highest credit, but not because of what he did for Israel, but because what he did for mankind and his consience that at the time manifested into Israelis. He would probably rebuke you if you said he did alot for Israel. He would say, "not for Israel, but for human beings." Then reply why he hates Israel and Zionism.

I didnt appoint myself judge over anyone.

I just posted an article by a very reputable person, Walid Shoebat, translating what he said in Arabic to newspapers and interviews. It was Shoebat who used the term fraud, I just asked the question for discussion.
Besides being put into ministry too early, and this is true....no matter if he messed up or not....he is a brand new believer and can't handle the money and fame he is getting now.


By the way, did you know that Mashtapnikim (those Palestinians who help Israel) mostly do it for money. Israel pays VERY WELL! Most even get to come into Israel and get a home and help to start a buisness besides being paid.

Also who are you to say I don't put my life in danger for Israel?

Rockets falling on the town I lived in - BeerSheva.
Going to the north to help kids when rockets were falling everywhere in second Lebanon war.
Being nearly flogged in Umm Al Fahm for giving a word of knowledge and starting a small riot after mentioning Jesus is the Son of God.
Being shot at in Hebron area after leading Muslims to faith, having my car stolen there.
Being spit on and mocked by Jewish antimissionaries everywhere we go.
Going though beauracratic headaches because of persecution, going to the Supreme Court and winning our case for my citizenship as a messianic.


Why? So that my Moledet (homeland) Israel will be filled with the Spirit of God and know their Messiah Yeshua---both Jewish and Arab.

You dont even know what I've been through LCash....

Listen, I like the guy alot.... Son of Hamas....but he needs to repent of his stated agenda to infiltrate the evangelical world with anti-Israel propoganda.

[lcash]

LCash,

First of all there is a big difference between being released into fulltime ministry after living a life of integrity since being a believer five years old and living out Jesus everywhere I went and in everything I did and even getting persecuted, hit, punched, etc. for the faith and learning to bless my enemies and seeing my enemies come to faith as well....going through Bible School...getting married....and ONLY THEN being released into fulltime ministry. In my fulltime ministry, we run from ministry fame and lots of money and lived off a small budget.

And between someone who is a brand new believer, not tried and tested. Who has not been formally discipled by anyone nor having spiritual fathers.
Suddenly gets famous, and suddenly has lots of money, and has not yet overcome all his "mentality" issues.

Also, what has he gone through and sacrificed for Israel?

He did not do what he did for the nation of Israel, he is an anti-Zionist self-admittedly. He did it because he didnt want to see civilians hurt, no matter what their race. It could have been Israel or Irian Jaya for that matter, he still hates Israel and DID NOT do this for Israel....he has made this clear.
I admire him for that and give him credit, the highest credit, but not because of what he did for Israel, but because what he did for mankind and his consience that at the time manifested into Israelis. He would probably rebuke you if you said he did alot for Israel. He would say, "not for Israel, but for human beings." Then reply why he hates Israel and Zionism.

I didnt appoint myself judge over anyone.

I just posted an article by a very reputable person, Walid Shoebat, translating what he said in Arabic to newspapers and interviews. It was Shoebat who used the term fraud, I just asked the question for discussion.
Besides being put into ministry too early, and this is true....no matter if he messed up or not....he is a brand new believer and can't handle the money and fame he is getting now.


By the way, did you know that Mashtapnikim (those Palestinians who help Israel) mostly do it for money. Israel pays VERY WELL! Most even get to come into Israel and get a home and help to start a buisness besides being paid.

Also who are you to say I don't put my life in danger for Israel?

Rockets falling on the town I lived in - BeerSheva.
Going to the north to help kids when rockets were falling everywhere in second Lebanon war.
Being nearly flogged in Umm Al Fahm for giving a word of knowledge and starting a small riot after mentioning Jesus is the Son of God.
Being shot at in Hebron area after leading Muslims to faith, having my car stolen there.
Being spit on and mocked by Jewish antimissionaries everywhere we go.
Going though beauracratic headaches because of persecution, going to the Supreme Court and winning our case for my citizenship as a messianic.


Why? So that my Moledet (homeland) Israel will be filled with the Spirit of God and know their Messiah Yeshua---both Jewish and Arab.

You dont even know what I've been through LCash....

Listen, I like the guy alot.... Son of Hamas....but he needs to repent of his stated agenda to infiltrate the evangelical world with anti-Israel propoganda.

So Sean, what official capacity were you in when you went through all of this? We you an intelligence officer? Soldier? Clerk for the nation? No, none of these things. You went through them of your own accord not for the sake of Israel.

Lcash